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12 April 2006 @ 03:58 pm
I'm not a great military historian; has the "bomb them until they love us and overthrow their own leader" plan ever worked? To me, it sounds a lot like Spike's "I'll find her, wherever she is, tie her up, torture her until she likes me again" plan.
Jimwarpdragon on April 13th, 2006 05:23 am (UTC)
I think the "take over and forcibly convert them to our religion "has worked well, but over historical time frames, not the sort of thing Americans are up for these days.
GryMorgrymor on April 13th, 2006 09:09 am (UTC)
Germany, maybe Japan? Of course, there wasn't much of an insurgency with either of those, and we actually rebuilt them...
GryMorgrymor on April 13th, 2006 09:11 am (UTC)
Err, I guess I misread what you said, in both of those cases we ended up deposing/disposing of, the relevent leader.
Thom Marrionxnbach on April 13th, 2006 01:57 pm (UTC)
Also, you are assuming that the Bush administration uses logic and has some sort of long term plan, instead of just reacting to shit they don't like. Don't think of them as a government, think of them as a cranky three year old with diaper rash throwing a tantrum.

A tantrum with nuclear capabilities!

Heiress of the Empiretechnocracygirl on April 13th, 2006 02:21 pm (UTC)
except that Dru was a twisted lady, and would probably respond favoraly to such treatment. Iranians aren't.

And please note that the Iran-Iraq war wasn't so long ago that it doesn't impinge on people thoughts. They've been bombed before, and it made them mad. Granted, Arica has a lot more planes than Iraq had, so the bombing is likely to be more through, but still.

And is anybody else really, really scared that the world isn't going to see the next presidential election? For a poli sci class, I read Essence of Decision. It looks at the Cuban Missile Crisis in three ways: as if the players were rational actors, as if the structure of the organizations involved played a role, and as if the individuals involved in the Crisis were just that -- individuals. The third looks at the Crisis as if what each person did or did not do mattered, and shows how easy it might be to slip from the world not blowing up to the world blowing up.

I don't have faith in the US overnment to act in the interests of huimanity sticking around on this earth in our current, non-radioactively mutated form.
Sordidatussordidatus on April 13th, 2006 05:07 pm (UTC)
RE:I don't have faith in the US overnment to act in the interests of huimanity
Ever read a cheery little book edited by Carl Sagan called "The Dark and The Cold"?