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12 November 2003 @ 05:31 pm
Silly question that's come up a few times.  

What date does "next Saturday" indicate to you?

Saturday, November 15, 2003
14(46.7%)
Saturday, November 22, 2003
16(53.3%)
 
 
 
Auto-defenestration has never been this funm00t on November 12th, 2003 05:31 pm (UTC)
"This Saturday" would be the Saturday that will occur at the end of the week (or today if today is Saturday). Sometimes refered to as "This Coming Saturday". Next Saturday is the one following it. Last Saturday is the Saturday immediately preceding.
St. Sean the Amusedseanb on November 13th, 2003 03:06 am (UTC)
I think I see the difference. You parse "next" as relating to "this Saturday", while I parse "next" as relating to "today".
Auto-defenestration has never been this funm00t on November 13th, 2003 05:29 am (UTC)
That's certainly one way to say it. :)

It gives me another choice of Saturday's to say without necessarily sticking an extra word in the sentence.
Eric Franklingamethyme on November 12th, 2003 06:10 pm (UTC)
Ask me again on Friday, and I'll probably have a different answer for you.
Victoriamahariel on November 12th, 2003 06:13 pm (UTC)
When someone says "next saturday" and it's the beginning to middle of the week, my brain says they mean the next saturday coming up.

But I'd be the first to tell you that my brain doesn't work in a normal fashion.

-Victoria
St. Sean the Amusedseanb on November 13th, 2003 03:07 am (UTC)
But I'd be the first to tell you that my brain doesn't work in a normal fashion.
And that's one of the things I love about you.
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Lady Doom: Nightwinglithera on November 12th, 2003 06:58 pm (UTC)
I'm completely with you here.
GryMorgrymor on November 12th, 2003 06:53 pm (UTC)
'Next ' refers to the first whose start time has not yet occurred.
'This ' refers to the first whose end time has not yet occurred.
'The after next' refers to the first starting after 'Next '
'Last ' refers to the last whose end time has occurred.
Auto-defenestration has never been this funm00t on November 12th, 2003 07:22 pm (UTC)
nevermind that last
i can't read.
St. Sean the Amused: hanginseanb on November 13th, 2003 03:11 am (UTC)
Unfortunately, those definitions fit with both interpretations. The "November 22nd" crowd interprets "next Saturday" as being a common parlance shorthand for "Saturday of next week". The definitions you cited of "Next", "This", The after next", and "Last" are applied on a per-week basis instead of a per-day basis.

Personally, I find it fascinating that you and your brother gave opposite answers to this one. I have yet to find any strong pattern to the answers.
GryMorgrymor on November 13th, 2003 08:32 am (UTC)
Doh, just realized that what I'm seeing in email isn't what anyone else is seeing (well, if they don't view the html source anyways), here is what I meant to enter:
<Begin paste>

'Next <event>' refers to the first <event> whose start time has not yet occurred.

'This <event>' refers to the first <event> whose end time has not yet occurred.

'The <event> after next' refers to the first <event> starting after 'Next <event>'

'Last <event>' refers to the last <event> whose end time has occurred.

<End Paste>

And specifically, the set of <event>s in question is all 'Saturday's, each individual 'Saturday' being an <event> that lasts ~24 hours and recurs every 168 hours. The precise start and end epochs are locale (time zone) dependent and the durations are recurrence rates may very by plus or minus one second.
Turning the Schmaltz up to 11: quietpullthestars on November 12th, 2003 10:56 pm (UTC)
...

yeah.
St. Sean the Amusedseanb on November 13th, 2003 03:12 am (UTC)
...
uh-huh
Jim: scorpionwarpdragon on November 12th, 2003 11:27 pm (UTC)
'Barry, if I were to say to you that I haven't seen Reservoir Dogs yet, what would that mean?'

(If you don't get the reference, and there's a good chance you will, then I'm sure Kris or Kat will.)
St. Sean the Amusedseanb on November 13th, 2003 03:03 am (UTC)
That was a wonderful my-life-isn't-that-fucked-up movie.
Jim: scorpionwarpdragon on November 13th, 2003 04:18 pm (UTC)
Yet.
Zzyzxthezzyzx on November 13th, 2003 05:20 am (UTC)
Next Saturday is the next Saturday that hasn't happened.

And Jim, I'm surprised you didn't quote the sports night scene about confusion over when the formal party was in Sports Night.

"Is 'Next Thursday' this Thursday or next Thursday?"

"It's this Thursday."
Janetpookagirl on November 13th, 2003 10:13 am (UTC)
While I do concede that "This" refers to this coming Saturday, and that logically "Next" would be the one following, I also think of "next" in terms of "the very next time". As in, "The next time you throw your toy I'll put it away." So if "next" is used all by itself, I assume it to be "the very next Saturday" (meaning the 16th) in my head.

If I'm talking about the 16th, I call it "This Saturday", and when I'm talking to someone about the 22nd, I would say "Not this, but next Saturday." Because then it works in my head. But I can't seem to say "Next Saturday" without confusing myself.

I'm easily confused.
St. Sean the Amusedseanb on November 13th, 2003 10:17 am (UTC)
Well, considering how close the poll results are, I think we're ALL easily confused.
Victoriamahariel on November 14th, 2003 04:10 am (UTC)
When thinking about it, I rarely use the word "next" when talking about a date. I will say "Not this friday, but the friday afterwards."

-Victoria